Comments on: A return to Havana — the El Presidente Cocktail https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/ You can make these cocktails. Start right now. Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:07:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Marc Wexler https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-133315 Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:07:56 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-133315 Looking forward to trying the Clement Creole for this and other recipes calling for cuaacao. I have been going to the Pierre Ferrand Dry Curaco for this and other drinks with great results!

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-112110 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 01:50:44 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-112110 In reply to Paul Ilechko.

Sounds good, I’ll try it. Thanks.

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By: Paul Ilechko https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-112033 Mon, 13 Aug 2018 21:08:01 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-112033 In reply to Doug Ford.

I have tried a few variations of this drink, and come to a couple of conclusions. Firstly, as has been pointed out already, it does not work with dry vermouth. Secondly, I actually like it with both the curaçao and grenadine. My favorite version so far was:

1.5 oz Mount Gay Black Barrel Rum
1.0 oz Lillet Blanc
1/4 oz Grand Marnier
1 bsp Jack Rudy grenadine

Perhaps sweeter than some would like it, but a very refreshing cocktail for a summer’s evening.

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By: Nucky Thompson’s Beige Linen Suit | BAMF Style https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-108783 Sun, 28 May 2017 14:00:39 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-108783 […] glass, and garnish with an orange peel twist. This Wikipedia recipe reflects the ones featured in Cold Glass and Imbibe, albeit with slightly different proportions. Both the latter recipes call for a double […]

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-108513 Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:18:57 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-108513 In reply to andrei.

I’ve never made El Presidente with Barbados, but I think it would be worthwhile giving it a try. The drink seems to be originally a Cuban invention, which is probably why most people will suggest a Cuban or Cuban-style rum, in the theory that it would hew close to the original flavor profile of the drink, or at least as close as we can in these days. But I say, if you want to try it with a Bajan rum, give it a shot. And I will, too. Thanks!

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By: andrei https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-108510 Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:39:48 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-108510 What about Barbados Rum?

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-22088 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:16:04 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-22088 In reply to Raphael.

Hi, Raphael,

I’m delighted that El Presidente barrel ages well. Aging is something I look forward to trying one day; I had always thought I’d start with a whiskey drink—Manhattan or Boulevardier, I guessed—but I may follow your lead and try El Presidente instead.

Thanks for letting us know about your experiement.

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By: Raphael https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-22071 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:23:59 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-22071 Doug,

I’ve been experimenting with aged cocktails and though El Presidente would make a good candidate for aging. The results were fantastic! I describe my process here: http://armyofrobots.tumblr.com/post/64687600165/the-elder-statesman

Best Regards,

Raphael

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-11367 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:18:20 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-11367 In reply to Raphael.

I had not learned of Morazán before, so I’m a bit better educated in my Central American history. Thanks for that.

I’ve heard that El Presidente is pretty good with Flor de Cana, I look forward to giving it a try.

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By: Raphael https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-11325 Mon, 08 Jul 2013 22:02:29 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-11325 Didn’t have Dolin Blanc the first time I made this, so I used Dolin Dry. BIG MISTAKE. The result was undrinkable and I poured it down the drain.

Went out and picked up a bottle of Dolin Blanc, then gave it another go. Delicious! I used Flor de Caña 7yr rum, which is one of my favorites, otherwise used your recipe exactly.

If one uses a Central American rum, maybe it should be called the Francisco Morazán? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Morazan

Love this blog, keep up the great work!

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By: Savvy Housekeeping » El Presidente Cocktail https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-4418 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:44:39 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-4418 […] agree that it’s a relief the presidential election is almost over. So how about a good stiff El Presidente cocktail to help us bear the political ads for one more day? Originally from Cuba, think of it like a […]

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By: Rule 37: The (El?) Presidente | Squirrel Farts Drink Blog https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-824 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:54:47 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-824 […] abomination with copious amounts of pineapple juice and other additions. The original version was closer to a rum Martini than a fruity tiki drink, but the version I made was still quite nice, though could have probably […]

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By: amiecj https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-609 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:59:18 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-609 Mmm, I’m getting all nostalgic for my Havana holiday so I’m going to try and create on eof these delicious cocktails… Thanks for an interesting read! Amie
I just posted an article on my Havana trip if you would like to take a look…

http://thelondonletters.wordpress.com/

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-549 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:15:41 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-549 In reply to AlchemistGeorge.

I agree that the Bacardis are sort of light-flavored, but I think that’s sort of the style for Puerto Rican rums. I think that might play to this drinks advantage, in the sense that you need a rum that vermouth can be friendly with. I’ll have to try the Flor de Cana…

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By: AlchemistGeorge https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-548 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:54:37 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-548 Thank you for spelling out which Rums you’ve tried and what you recommend. FWIW our ‘go to’ white rum is Flor De Cana, if we want something that is not so ‘rummy’ we go to Myer’s Platinum. I’ve found that, as a generalization, Bacardi rums have too little flavor. I’m also pleased to see you spelling out your thinking on grenadines – so far we lean towards cold process grenadine – but our preliminary conclusion is no grenadine for this drink.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-546 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:48:01 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-546 In reply to Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Interesting you should ask—I wondered the same thing, as I caught on to Martini/Manhattan as a model for El Presidente. Naturally, I did a couple experiments, and it turns out that a dash or two of orange bitters, either in place of, or in addition to, the curaçao, makes a pleasantly complex addition to the mix. Since bitters seem to appear nowhere in the drink’s history, I think you’d need to call it by some other name, but it does make a nice change of pace for El Presidente—and it gives you an option for pulling back the sweetness intrinsic to curaçao or grenadine.

CocktailDB does show an El Presidente variation along these lines:
http://www.cocktaildb.com/recipe_detail?id=3017
It doesn’t specifically spec orange bitters, but that’s your best bet.

So now it’s time for more experiments.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-545 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:19:28 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-545 In reply to Frederic.

Hi, Frederick— I’m guessing that my use of words like “dreck” and “undrinkable” probably isn’t going over well with Boston drinkers. It’s a good reminder (to me) that what’s sweet to one person is sour to another. (My sister reminds me of this every time I make her a whiskey sour.) I have to call ’em as I sees ’em, but my tastes change with the seasons to some extent; I’ll try El Presidente “Boston style” when cold weather rolls around, perhaps I’ll see it differently.

The grenadine is an interesting ingredient in El Presidente. I can imagine bartenders swapping out curaçao for grenadine on a whim, depending on their tastes, and their customers. Using both seems like gilding the lily. It appears I just never gained a taste for grenadine. I despise the “cooked” style, though I’m still contemplating how to exploit that molassesy burned flavor into… something, as an intellectual challenge. The uncooked “cold” style is more palatable, but not a flavor I search out.

And I guess that’s the story of how 2:1:hint with curaçao became my favorite El Presidente.

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By: Frederic https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-544 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:32:50 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-544 Generally make mine 2:1:1 or 4:1:1 both with a dash of grenadine. The equal parts of curacao and dry vermouth balance each other and the grenadine gives it a pleasing pink color (to some that is). I think my bias is based on how it is made here in Boston (also Paul Clarke used this ratio in an old Cocktail Chronicles post).

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By: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot https://cold-glass.com/2011/08/02/a-return-to-havana-the-el-presidente-cocktail/#comment-539 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 23:44:26 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=2844#comment-539 I’m typically not a rum drinker, but El Presidente has appeal in name, as well as the combination of flavors offered up from the recipe. I’m curious if you have tried substituting bitters for the curaçao. Could be interesting. I’m going to add El Presidente to my list of cocktails to try. Simple and sophisticated sounds good to me.

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