Comments on: Searching for the Martini: The Martinez Cocktail https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/ You can make these cocktails. Start right now. Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:01:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-110280 Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:01:21 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-110280 In reply to Paul Ilechko.

That’s an interesting approach. I wasn’t aware of High Wire. Thanks.

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By: Paul Ilechko https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-110278 Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:06:06 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-110278 One of my local restaurant bars had an interesting take on the Martinez. They called it the “Southern Martinez”, and it contained only Barrel Aged Bluecoat Gin and High Wire Southern Amaro.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-108380 Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:33:09 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-108380 In reply to c0laphile.

“Pale in the glass” suggests that perhaps the first Martinez might have been made with dry (white) vermouth, instead of the more typical sweet vermouth. The proportions could also be in play, specifically more gin and less vermouth could result in a “paler” drink, with the vermouth playing a smaller part in the overall flavor. It’s an interesting question, thanks for asking.

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By: c0laphile https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-108358 Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:58:03 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-108358 I’ve ordered a Martinez only twice. The first was pale in the glass but elegant on the palate. The second, from a different bartender at the same bar, was dark and disappointing. I haven’t yet been able to justify shelling out the bucks for a bottle of Luxardo. And I’m always on the look-out for a mini-bottle, a fool’s errand, it seems. Your guidance here might help me coax the winning version from a bartender. Thanks!

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By: Pavel Yan. aka scomorokh https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-86542 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 18:23:06 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-86542 This is the third time I’ve explored (not tested!) the Martinez. And, obviously, an ultimate version was tasted long … long time ago (London Dry Gin or (better) Old Tom, 1:1 ratio, Luxardo Maraschino Originale). But this cocktail do not stop to excite me! Now I am drinking the Byron’s version in a Simon Difford’s edition (with oude genever, 1:1 ratio and orange curaçao as additional sweetener) – an amazing cocktail with palate of “superb vermouth”. I have to recommend 8)

Great pics and writing as usually, your blog really inspires me, thanks!

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-7084 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:49:32 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-7084 In reply to relaxxin.

Mezcal, maraschino and sweet vermouth, an interesting idea. Thanks!

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By: relaxxin https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-7069 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 05:02:39 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-7069 Sub gin for mezcal.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3625 Mon, 01 Oct 2012 21:51:58 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3625 In reply to jackiehames.

I’m delighted that the drier version suited you—thanks for checking back.

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By: jackiehames https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3621 Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:51:06 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3621 In reply to Doug Ford.

I tried the drier version of the Martinez the other day. It was a winner. Definitely will become a regular on the “drink of choice” list.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3313 Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:56:40 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3313 In reply to mylatinnotebook.

Ah, state fairs. It looks like Texas is very much into deep-fried everything. Here in Minnesota, it’s anything-you-want on a stick. Thanks (I think) for the link.

As for fried cocktails: I’ve never deep-fried anything, so my credibility there is zero. It’s hard to imagine how to manage such a stunt—the typical deep-fryer runs a couple hundred degrees hotter than the boiling point of ethanol; I would think it would make a pretty exciting moment, when the Margarita hits the oil. I suppose if you had something like a Jello shot, to hold the drink in place, then beer-battered it, maybe you could actually pull such a stunt off. No. Sounds disgusting. I’m dropping the whole plan right now.

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By: mylatinnotebook https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3267 Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:37:23 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3267 Nope, just can’t do a sweet cocktail (does a Kir Royale count, as sweet and as a cocktail?) By the way, does your credibility extend to fried cocktails? http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/oh-the-margaritas-youll-deep-fry/262182/

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3197 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:11:00 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3197 In reply to theboolion.

Ah, so I’m not alone on that 1:1 thing; that’s reassuring.

Sometimes, as with the Martinez, it just leads to a big muddle of flavors. Mystery is often fun, but not when you can’t figure out what kind of drink you have in your hand.

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By: Doug Ford https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3196 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:06:28 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3196 In reply to jackiehames.

Definitely give the Martinez a try if you enjoy your cocktails a bit on the sweeter side—I look forward to hearing if you enjoy it.

It’s always uplifting to hear that readers are enjoying Cold Glass, and I’m delighted that you’re sharing it with your family. I’ll definitely keep doing my best. Thanks.

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By: theboolion https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3195 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:05:07 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3195 I have yet to go wont he ‘origins-of-the-Martini’ road fo explroation, but I look forward to doing it sometime soonish.

I was interested in your comment about how 2:1 worked, 1:2 worked and 1:1 didn’t. I had exactly the same thing trying variations on Gin and Dubonnet. Gin with Dub was good; Dub with Gin was good, but it wasn’t so nice when it wasn’t sure what it was.

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By: jackiehames https://cold-glass.com/2012/09/11/searching-for-the-martini-the-martinez-cocktail/#comment-3194 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:17:19 +0000 http://cold-glass.com/?p=5862#comment-3194 This sounds great! I’ve never been a big martini person–I’m not big on vodka and I prefer sweeter drinks with dark liquors–and this seems like a perfect variation for me. Your comparison to a Manhattan and the use on Bombay in the dry version pretty much sold me on this cocktail.

I’ve been following your posts for a while, and I really love this blog. Cocktailing is a bit of an hobby in my family and we’re always on the look out for new recipes. Great stuff!

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